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	<description>Advancing healthy churches in Utah&#039;s unique cultural climate.</description>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Understanding the Book of Mormon&#8221; reviewed by FARMS by Aaron S</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=365&#038;cpage=1#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The end of their review of John Piper&#039;s book on justification was also awful:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;If so, then quite unlike Wright, Piper will not allow a robust role for the cleansing, purging, and purifying work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of those who enter into the new covenant with God.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Words fail me to describe how inaccurate and ignorant this kind of remark is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The end of their review of John Piper&#8217;s book on justification was also awful:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;If so, then quite unlike Wright, Piper will not allow a robust role for the cleansing, purging, and purifying work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of those who enter into the new covenant with God.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Words fail me to describe how inaccurate and ignorant this kind of remark is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Understanding the Book of Mormon&#8221; reviewed by FARMS by John</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=365&#038;cpage=1#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would imagine that the reviewer could have created a harder-hitting review had he actually read your purpose and your footnotes. He comes to the text with his own assumptions and does interpretive violence regarding authorial intention and motivation.

His proof-texting from 3 Nephi to answer how you never say what LDS doctrine or the definition of the LDS gospel does nothing to answer your assertion that the Book of Mormon contains nothing to address the functional and most public aspects of the LDS faith: the temples and all the secret/sacred things which occur in there (marriages on behalf of the dead and baptisms in proxy for dead people). With exception of its affirmation of baptismal regeneration (the heretical requirement of baptism for salvation), your book describes how the Book of Mormon&#039;s theology does not add much to LDS theology and in telling the LDS Plan of Salvation.

This review was not professional when it addressed the author as well, snidely calling you &quot;Reverend Anderson&quot; rather than Rev. Dr. Anderson. Emotion destroyed the effectiveness which FARMS could have applied their own take on this book. True, meaningful dialogue could have taken place.

The review is boiled down to &quot;We do not like this book because it teaches things contrary to what the First Presidency teach us.&quot; This is the exact same view on authority which the Medieval Roman Catholic Church had, only now it is the First Presidency instead of Pope Leo. Yet Luther&#039;s greatest weapon was that he wrote and taught on the Bible in the common vernacular of the people, and that is to your book&#039;s credit.

Soli Deo Gloria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would imagine that the reviewer could have created a harder-hitting review had he actually read your purpose and your footnotes. He comes to the text with his own assumptions and does interpretive violence regarding authorial intention and motivation.</p>
<p>His proof-texting from 3 Nephi to answer how you never say what LDS doctrine or the definition of the LDS gospel does nothing to answer your assertion that the Book of Mormon contains nothing to address the functional and most public aspects of the LDS faith: the temples and all the secret/sacred things which occur in there (marriages on behalf of the dead and baptisms in proxy for dead people). With exception of its affirmation of baptismal regeneration (the heretical requirement of baptism for salvation), your book describes how the Book of Mormon&#8217;s theology does not add much to LDS theology and in telling the LDS Plan of Salvation.</p>
<p>This review was not professional when it addressed the author as well, snidely calling you &#8220;Reverend Anderson&#8221; rather than Rev. Dr. Anderson. Emotion destroyed the effectiveness which FARMS could have applied their own take on this book. True, meaningful dialogue could have taken place.</p>
<p>The review is boiled down to &#8220;We do not like this book because it teaches things contrary to what the First Presidency teach us.&#8221; This is the exact same view on authority which the Medieval Roman Catholic Church had, only now it is the First Presidency instead of Pope Leo. Yet Luther&#8217;s greatest weapon was that he wrote and taught on the Bible in the common vernacular of the people, and that is to your book&#8217;s credit.</p>
<p>Soli Deo Gloria</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles in Connecting with a New Church, V by Frank Funaro</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=294&#038;cpage=1#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Funaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 19:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hearing information about the LDS is truly and education that I appreciate...As a born again believer I am more confident in allowing those guys  with the white shirts, who knock on my doors,to come into my home so I can share with them the REAL DEAL truth concerning  Christianity  and the truth concerning the Life of Jesus Christ...I am blessed .
Brother Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hearing information about the LDS is truly and education that I appreciate&#8230;As a born again believer I am more confident in allowing those guys  with the white shirts, who knock on my doors,to come into my home so I can share with them the REAL DEAL truth concerning  Christianity  and the truth concerning the Life of Jesus Christ&#8230;I am blessed .<br />
Brother Frank</p>
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		<title>Comment on Utah Advance in the News by Latayne C Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=319&#038;cpage=1#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>Latayne C Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 22:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross, that is great!  I am so proud of you and your book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross, that is great!  I am so proud of you and your book.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &quot;The Mormon People: A View from Anthropology&quot; by Ben McClary</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben McClary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really great, thought-inducing words here, Ross!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really great, thought-inducing words here, Ross!</p>
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		<title>Comment on &quot;The Mormon People: A View from Anthropology&quot; by Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=312&#038;cpage=1#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post.  This illustrates the tension one maintains during intercultural dialogue, that is, the individual-group tension.  One side can make a group assertion, and the other can respond back with an individual assertion.  This is possibly what makes evangelism so difficult when it is seen as a series of discrete and separate, maybe even one shot contacts.  Usually what will happen is two ships passing in the night.

A more continuous, multiple contact, developmental model allows the individual and group issues to surface, and hopefully be explored in a trust building environment.  What may seem to be rabbit trails may actually be trust building exercises, and over the longer period movement can be made.  Certainly there comes a point where both sides recognize that a decision might be made, and then there could be withdrawal and refusal.  However, in a relationship, that may not always be so abrupt.  Or if so, there is a history of relationship that the withdrawall&quot;ee&quot; may remember and process further later on in their journey...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post.  This illustrates the tension one maintains during intercultural dialogue, that is, the individual-group tension.  One side can make a group assertion, and the other can respond back with an individual assertion.  This is possibly what makes evangelism so difficult when it is seen as a series of discrete and separate, maybe even one shot contacts.  Usually what will happen is two ships passing in the night.</p>
<p>A more continuous, multiple contact, developmental model allows the individual and group issues to surface, and hopefully be explored in a trust building environment.  What may seem to be rabbit trails may actually be trust building exercises, and over the longer period movement can be made.  Certainly there comes a point where both sides recognize that a decision might be made, and then there could be withdrawal and refusal.  However, in a relationship, that may not always be so abrupt.  Or if so, there is a history of relationship that the withdrawall&#8221;ee&#8221; may remember and process further later on in their journey&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles in Connecting with a New Church, V by rosswasatch</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=294&#038;cpage=1#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>rosswasatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin and Brent,
Thanks for your encouraging comments!
Ross</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin and Brent,<br />
Thanks for your encouraging comments!<br />
Ross</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles in Connecting with a New Church, V by Brent</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=294&#038;cpage=1#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross, I echo Kevin&#039;s comments above.  I really appreciate your style of relating and relationship.  People need time, for any transition, really, and you are showing the hows and whys of this.  People need to have the safe place to be able to be uncertain, anxious, ambivalent, and whatever else.  Keep up this important work!  Thanks again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross, I echo Kevin&#8217;s comments above.  I really appreciate your style of relating and relationship.  People need time, for any transition, really, and you are showing the hows and whys of this.  People need to have the safe place to be able to be uncertain, anxious, ambivalent, and whatever else.  Keep up this important work!  Thanks again.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles in Connecting with a New Church, V by Kevin Mixan</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=294&#038;cpage=1#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Mixan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comments and thoughts Ross.  Many people fail to realize or understand the it is a transition that takes time and is full of emotions.  I hope and pray that more people will study and understand the culture especially here in Utah so the will be properly equipped to share the truth of Jesus Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments and thoughts Ross.  Many people fail to realize or understand the it is a transition that takes time and is full of emotions.  I hope and pray that more people will study and understand the culture especially here in Utah so the will be properly equipped to share the truth of Jesus Christ.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Obstacles in Connecting with a New Church, IV by rosswasatch</title>
		<link>http://www.utahadvance.org/?p=289&#038;cpage=1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>rosswasatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hermite,

I agree with the ideals you state in your comment about expressing love to people regardless of their faith choices.  Unfortunately, the reality often falls short of the ideal.  Even the language used reflects an underlying attitude.  How often is someone who decides to pursue another spiritual path after Mormonism talked about as an &quot;apostate.&quot;  That seems to me to be a pejorative term.  When they join the LDS church, ward members don&#039;t consider them &quot;apostate&quot; from their previous faith.

I&#039;ve had countless people come to me with stories about how their family ostracized them, their friends no longer talk to them, etc. since they resigned from the LDS church.  I pray that your open-hearted attitude would become more the norm.  I like that you can testify openly of your convictions, without being threatened by or slandering others who maybe once had those same convictions but no longer do.  Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hermite,</p>
<p>I agree with the ideals you state in your comment about expressing love to people regardless of their faith choices.  Unfortunately, the reality often falls short of the ideal.  Even the language used reflects an underlying attitude.  How often is someone who decides to pursue another spiritual path after Mormonism talked about as an &#8220;apostate.&#8221;  That seems to me to be a pejorative term.  When they join the LDS church, ward members don&#8217;t consider them &#8220;apostate&#8221; from their previous faith.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had countless people come to me with stories about how their family ostracized them, their friends no longer talk to them, etc. since they resigned from the LDS church.  I pray that your open-hearted attitude would become more the norm.  I like that you can testify openly of your convictions, without being threatened by or slandering others who maybe once had those same convictions but no longer do.  Thank you!</p>
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